#111 - A Mountain Side Christmas Special

Dec 21

This is a fun recap of The Mountain Side Podcasts 2022 in the holiday spirit. Host Bobby Marshall makes lots of surprise announcements for 2023 with gifts for the TMS Crew. Bobby Marshall is joined by Jeremy Mayers and Gabby Giles to discuss Christmas, holiday traditions, Half Face Blades, travel, UFC, knife, Stake, Colorado, outdoor life, and much more. Please subscribe or like us on social media platforms for updates on shows, events, and episode drops. Become a Mountain Side Patron here for exclusive footage.

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A Mountain Side Christmas Special

This is our last episode of 2022. First and foremost, I want to thank all the readers who have supported us throughout the last couple of years. The show has been amazing. I always enjoy sitting down no matter whom I have in here. We have had some amazing guests, and I also like to thank our sponsors. Happy holidays to everyone. I hope you enjoy our Christmas episode.

We watch the UFC action. Unfortunately, we watched our boy, Cody Brundage get KOed. That was rough, but this is the only other fight I want to see. Another Denver boy, Drew Dober, fighting Bobby Lee Green. That is a way to start a Christmas party. Merry Christmas, Gabby. He is hanging out with us in the studio. What is good, Jeremy Myers?

I’m winding it down. What a bizarre freaking 2022.

What a bizarre December. I have gotten my ass kicked this month. Guest-wise, we were supposed to have a bunch of guests on the show. One of them broke his ankle. The other one had a family emergency. One couldn't make it because of travel plans. I had another one booked, and I came back down with fucking Corona again. It has been ridiculous. I'm glad we are getting this in.

Does the second bout with Corona because you were fine in two days?

Honestly, this was worse than the first round because I had gotten ahead of the first round. I was getting IVs and shit before I even got COVID because I knew it was coming. This one, I still feel a little bit raspy. I had a cold bit worse than this.

That is my point. When I had it over the summer, each time, it hammered home how absurd the past several years have been. I have hammered on about this before, and I chewed your ear off about my feelings on this, but you were like, “I got it.” Two days later, you were like, “Do you want to come in on Saturday?” I'm like, “Aren't you supposed to be in a fucking bed dying?” They shut the world down over that.

We were supposed to record this on Wednesday, and I got a Saturday down with Corona. Saturday works out better for everybody. I didn't want to subject you guys. CDC guidelines are five days. I'm well past that.

I was like, “Fuck it.” Merry Christmas. We are speeding toward Christmas of 2022. Guests cancel.

I'm not like tripping on any of it.

I thought everything would just be smooth, normal, and fine. It is not. It is weird.

You still got the Christmas tree on the Porsche. I saw that post. That tradition is still going.

I refuse to buckle and change up anything that I possibly can.

How badass is it that your dad goes and gets a Christmas tree every year on 9/11?

It is cool. It is cramped in the back of my sister.

Those seats were put in the car just because it was a regulation. It wasn't considered a two-seater sports car. They were able to skirt some guidelines or something by putting four seats in.

It probably saves you a butt load in insurance. Can you fit a car seat in it?

No.

Was there ever a car seat in it?

It is tight enough. When my kids were young, I was like, “Jump in the back.” It is a car seat. It is unsafe. It was terrible.

I can't confirm that comfort wasn't in mind while designing that.

It’s a performance-based Christmas tree.

The dudes were like, “We have been waiting for you. As soon as we set up, we were talking about it.” Those are awesome.

I thought you went and whacked through your own tree.

No, we go to the place on 74. Those guys are great. What are you guys doing over your break? I know you are not traveling.

My daughters are and my wife are insanely busy with their Nutcracker production.

What about that?

That is what is going on in my world, but we are headed to North Carolina on Christmas Eve. That will all be done.

That’s the perfect time to fly. We went back to Philadelphia on Christmas Eve. James, was that Christmas Eve?

It might have been a day before.

I don't know but I went through that airport. Whenever we are going anywhere, we are traveling on holiday down.

Through Asheville?

No, but just Denver. Going through an airport. I'm like, “Let's travel on holiday from now on. We are all together anyway. Why not?” It was Christmas Eve when we flew back to Philly. Denver and Philly were ghost towns. I was like, “This is the fucking way to travel.” You and I are constantly at the airport. The ridiculousness that is an airport was completely void of it. It was fantastic.

Especially the Philly airport. That one is terrible.

You can have that airport.

If I didn't know that I was going to Philadelphia, you could tell me I was anywhere in the world. I’d go, “Okay.” It was so bizarre. There was nothing resembling like Philadelphia.

No Liberty Bell or anything?

You would think there would be a Philly fanatic on the wall or something. There was just nothing. Nobody looked like they were from Philly. It is like a global hub now.

I avoid that city like the plague if I can, especially traveling anywhere like Chicago up there. If there is a connection, I'm like, “Fuck that. I will fly to Florida or something than over going up there.”

It is not great. We were warming up. I want to make it clear that I do love and adore Philadelphia, and I'm just not happy with it now.

You don't want to get too much hate.

It is not even that. My mom was on the phone with me. She was like, “Go easier on Philadelphia. When you are talking to your brother, don't be as harsh as you are about where he lives.” I'm honest, but I get it, and I'm a bit hard on it.

That is the East Coast mentality.

That is why I said to my mom, “We grew up being abrasive. That is what it is all about. What do you mean, be nicer? Nobody is nicer.”

A lot of kids on the naughty list are in Philly.

It is like all kids capping each other.

It is not as bad as Chicago.

If the population is different or anything, but probably per capita, it is probably on par. It is madness. On Kensington, it is insane. We were talking that it was the frog in the boiling water where everybody was like, “It is a little sketchy over there.” It was like, “It didn't use to be sketchy over there.” It is a weird situation back home. It is nice to visit now, but lucky to be in the burbs when I go there. I haven't driven through downtown, where I used to live for many years.

I have only spent time downtown. I don't think I have been in the burbs that much.

You would have been downtown.

My worst memories of ever doing entertainment shows are in Philadelphia. It is that Made in America Festival.

I remember you telling me that you did.

It is a fucking nightmare. It is on the Rocky Steps.

That show is bananas. That was the 4th of July.

It is Memorial Day, Labor Day, or one of those holidays. This is the first time that we have ever traveled on Christmas Eve. Normally we go a few days before, and the madness of the runaround, like, “We got to go to the store and get this.” There is none of that. They are going to show up. Everything is going to be closed.

I wish the airport were like that all the time.

The gifts are already there and wrapped.

When we were traveling around in the midst of COVID, we were flying into Tampa, and I had him with me. He had his skateboard strapped to his backpack. We looked around, and all the restaurants were closed. There was nobody there. This was in June 2020. It was like doomsday.

Did Drew Dober knock out Bobby Lee Green?

No, not at all.

I think he did. I missed it, or maybe that was the end of the third round. These two are savages, man.

I hate seeing those dudes when they are caught. He was on top of that. He knew what was going to happen. What do you get him with? He absorbed that shit.

This is the one fight I wanted to see.

He goes, “Dad, there is nobody around. Can I ride my skateboard?” I look around. I'm like, “Yeah. 100%, ride your skateboard through the airport.” When are you ever going to get an opportunity to do this again without getting tackled? This is fantastic. He is sitting there right through Tampa. It was a hike.

Even in recent traveling, our last trip that mom and I went to Tampa, we met you. Even that was a ghost town. Tampa has a nice airport. The flooring is great.

It’s great for skating.

There is no airport that I walk through that I go, “These are great floors.” If you skateboard through it, I bet you think that.

What about you guys? Are you staying in Colorado? How about you, Gabby?

We are going to Vegas.

Is it a whole family going?

My boyfriend's family is out there. We will see grandparents, aunts, and uncles. We are going out and staying at the Cosmopolitan for a night.

We used to build an ice skating rink on the roof.

We are going ice skating on the roof. They have a three-level bar. I have only seen pictures.

There is a bar on the top level, and it overlooks the strip. That was like an after-party spot when I used to work for The Killers. It was fucking awesome.

We were in New York for a week and a half. The rooms are $800 a night and plus. You go to Vegas for Christmas, a $200 room, and we are upgraded.

Mountain Side Christmas: In New York, rooms are like $800 a night. Why not go to Vegas for Christmas and get a room for $200?

It’s at the Cosmo, right?

Yes. We have a huge bed, couches, and kitchen thing. It is $200, but you get 300 square feet in New York, and it is $800 plus a night.

I was in Brooklyn. My hotel room was $1,200 a night because it was over a weekend and it is close to Barclays.

I stayed at a Super 8 in Brooklyn. It was over the summer sometime. It was $300 and something a night for Super 8. They said, “We could put you on the other side of the city and get you into something.” I'm like, “I have to be there at 6:00.” They were like, “Here are your options.”

It is who leaves the line on for you.

It is the same quality, I'm sure.

Don't leave the black light on.

I was in Atlantis in The Bahamas once. We are all hanging out in my buddy's room, partying. I'm sitting at the desk. He was laying on his bed. He got this giant headboard. The light was hitting the headboard. I'm like, “Kevin?” He was like, “What?” I'm like, “Get up. Come here.” He sat right next to me. I'm like, “Check your headboard out.” He was like, “Jesus Christ.” He was seven days into our stay. He has been sleeping on this. It was naughty.

I don't even want to know what happens in a hotel. We spend a lot of time in them. I hope to God that they clean them well.

It is like camping. That is what I look at it as.

Camping is cleaner. I don't want some guy’s splooge in my ears.

If I'm being entirely honest, Bear Cap is probably more sanitary than a Super 8. I don't know why.

This is why I was mad when everything went down. We live in filth between airports, airplanes, and hotels. It is not on par with some of those dirty jobs, but you are exposed to germs, and it is good for you. I want to keep going to gross places, doing my gross gig. New York or Las Vegas, how long are you going for?

People live in filth between airports, airplanes, and hotels. It's like gigs, which is the grossest. It's not on par with some dirty jobs, but you're constantly exposed to germs.

Friday to Monday or Tuesday.

I was there, and I went to the Apple Store at Caesars. I walked back to Mandalay Bay. It was a hike, and I stopped by a six-pack or something at a CVS, and I watched a dude walk. This is shit that I have only seen online on Twitter or whatever. I walk into CVS, and I'm presenting my ID to get carded to buy beer. This dude walks in, grabs a handful of stuff, throws it into a bag, and walks out. Nobody stopped him.

It ran through my head. I'm presenting my ID as a good citizen. I was like, “Here you go. Here is my proof.” I'm watching a guy shoplifting right next to me. Nobody is stopping him. It was the most bizarre I have ever seen. It was the first time I had witnessed that. That is such a fucking wild place. I used to have so much fun there. I'm glad that I'm old now.

Are you guys going to go see any shows, Gabby?

Probably not.

I would recommend that if you are going to go see one, go check out Cirque du Soleil’s KÀ.

I want to see them so badly.

It is fucking unbelievable. I have been in entertainment for a long time, but that show is mind-blowing from a production standpoint. They have a 60,000-pound stage that comes out. It goes completely vertical, and there are all these acrobats running around on it. It is like this Kung Fu-like martial arts vibe.

Have you seen it?

Yes, a couple of times.

How long has it been?

It has been quite a while. There have been 7 or 8 performers that have died on it because you got fucking people flying behind you on these high-speed winches and horns.

Erin went to go see it, and the day before, somebody got jacked. They shut it down for the night.

That show is amazing. If you go to an early show, you can go fairly cheap, and it is the shit. It is at the MGM.

I have to look for tickets. They are on my list of things to do before I die. It is to see Cirque du Soleil.

We used to go to the one on Broad Street. They build a tent on Broad Street in Philly.

Those ones suck.

It was dope. Are you kidding me?

It is still amazing, but when you go see the actual production, you are talking about a 60,000-pound stage that goes vertical. It spins like a fucking top, and there are performers on it. It will blow your mind, especially if you do some extracurricular activities before you go in. You got to be careful. You might freak yourself out. That sounds good, and you are spending Colorado Christmas.

You are going to see a bunch of me. We have done that in the past couple of years.

Have you stayed home in the last couple of years?

Yes, except in 2021, when we went home. It is nice around here during Christmas. I have got nothing going on. It is going to be sweet.

Did you hear about the structure fire? We were talking about that. It is two buildings down from the studio. This is got to be their biggest month.

You see a small business that survived the past couple of years is humming and working it out. This is peak time for them, and then the fucking fire. Are you kidding me?

It looked pretty bad too. The windows are scorched black.

The place is smoked. You got to start from top to bottom.

There is no coming back from that.

Thank God for these dudes that are on top of it that can contain something like that. That is a whole strip of buildings. We are connected to it.

I know there are not a whole lot of locals that are reading this, but our audiences are from all over the place. If there are any locals who need any help, they got a platform here. There is a GoFundMe or something. I would be glad to share it or do whatever we can to help. It sucks. There are nice people down there too.

We are on a downer. The city is a mess. There are fires everywhere, drugs, doom, gloom, and everything.

It is like Fatman. I love that movie. Ever since you showed it to me, this is the first year where I have been able to sit down and watch Fatman with Mel Gibson. It is fucking great.

He is the greatest American, although he is not American. I love that guy.

It is up there on my Christmas movie list now. As kids, was there anything that sticks out at Christmas? Christmas was another day in my family. I grew up poor. There wasn't a lot around. The family didn't take a big emphasis on it. I would be damned if we even had a tree at the time. There is nothing wrong with that.

I was lightening it up again. I was four, and I didn't even have a tree. My parents always made a big thing of it. Christmas puked all over my house. It is insane.

Is it full-on decorations and stuff?

My wife is a maniac. There isn't an inch of my house that doesn't have garland and lights all over it.

I feel bad because my wife is way more into it. Maybe it is because of the way I grew up. I don't hold a bigger value on it. Is this more shit I got to do?

I am looking at it, and I'm like, “We got to undo this. It is a load-out. I'm not looking forward to this strike. This is going to suck.” The house is all glowing. There was a huge emphasis on it when I was a kid. It was such a big deal. What sucks about getting up and moving halfway across the country is my family is loud and big. We have big dinners. They go on forever. We are all talking over each other. We are all hugging, and the house is too hot. It was just awesome. Not having that aspect of it is a bummer, but we make up for it with decorations in the house.

What better place to spend Christmas than snowy Colorado if we ever get any snow?

We are trying to go skiing. I don't know what the local mountains were like.

The mountains have been getting pounded.

Yes, but we are not going all the way out there. We are going local.

How about you? What is your Christmas like growing up?

It is the same as you said. It is loud, everyone is yelling, big dinners and long nights. My family made a big deal out of Christmas growing up. I’m thankful for that. We also come from an Italian family. There are lots of food, yelling, and alcohol for days. In 2021, I brought my boyfriend home for Christmas, and I was like, “Here is your prep list. You strap in. We are out all night. You meet everybody. You are going to drink lots of alcohol. Just say hi to everybody.”

It is how Philly is. Tell me if you guys did this. We would go to other neighborhoods. You’d go to each house. Everyone would have cocktail parties and dinners. You would go from house to house. You were like, “Merry Christmas.” Everyone is having a house party. We went to our grandparents, and you’d go up the street.

Where was this?

It’s in the Plymouth Meeting and Lafayette Hill area. Everyone is Italian over there. Everyone knows everybody who is Italian. You knock on people's doors. Someone got alcohol and cookies. You go over to their house and bother people until midnight.

It wasn’t like that with us. We were in the proper burbs. You didn't go house to house, but my grandparent’s two small houses in Bensalem are where we would spend every Christmas. Grandpa would have the house in ‘85. I was a little bit younger than this guy.

Should we get another structure fire going?

I would be the beer fetcher for everybody. My grandfather, in the rec room, had his Kegerator with Genesee Light. I would be filling up glasses for my grandparents. I’m doing like the tax. I was ten. I’m doing the tax off the top as I'm taking it in. It was so much fun.

What is the biggest childhood shocker gift that you ever got?

It was a 1988 Haro Master. That was it. There is video evidence of it. It is humiliating. I haven't even shown him, but my parents bought me like this. We weren't rich by any means, and this was a huge gift. I remember it was $419. Imagine what that was in 1988. I didn't think for a second that I would get that. My old man had his VHS camcorder on his shoulder.

That is a lot of money back then.

That was an ungodly amount of money.

Mountain bikes nowadays are $1,000 for a piece of shit. I bought my kids GT Mountain Bikes. I got them on sale for $1,200 or something. Look at that one with the orange wheels.

Type in black. None of this blue stuff. That is not stock, but that's the one. I walked out on a Christmas morning. We did our regular Christmas.

Is that the badass BMX riders at the time were riding?

Rick is friends with Dennis McCoy. That is what Dennis McCoy rode. He is still crushing it. I walked out, and that was a happy Christmas because it was like a regular Christmas. They were like, “Can you go around the corner? Can you take some trash out on the deck?” I'm like, “Yeah, sure.” That was sitting out there. I remember the noise that I made. I squealed. It was humiliating. I cringe thinking that the footage still exists, but it was mind-blowing to me. I had that for a while. Look at how beautiful that thing is.

On our last Christmas special, I’m being able to talk to Rick for a minute to catch up with him again and see what the hell he is up to.

That was ridiculous.

That was a lot of fun, but I decided we were not going to carry that on. I don't feel bad, but I feel like we left a lot of people out because you can't fit everybody in an episode. Gabby, go to our website. Go and look at the number of guests that we had in 2022. Scroll down to the last Christmas special. That seems like so long ago.

Look at how pro your shit is here. Your site is everything. This is a one-man show here.

We got a production team now. I don't have to deal with this much, but a lot of the design and stuff was me.

The design and everything is all you.

This is Zac Haynes. We got to get him back in. Justin T. Freeman got us some new music this year. We had an incredible year. Megan Oldham is coming back for Winter X Game. Hopefully, we will get her back in here.

You got to get Jeff back.

I have been talking with Jeff. He hits me up quite a bit. Shout out to Jeff at Colorado Craft Beef for hooking it up and Brandon H. Wheeler from Freedom Research Foundation. We recorded that from Ukraine. That was insane. They're savage. Also, some awesome Howl for Wildlife organization, Jordan Kurtz, Colorado Parks and Wildlife, and Jacquelyn Clark, the amazing woman she is.

We got Dave Sands, Hunter, Ben Malament, and Mark Morris. It has been heavy hitter after heavy hitter. It’s been good and awesome. We got into the 100th episode. We did the blade giveaway with Bito. We have Vinc Pichel, Scott, Derek Wolf, John Nores, and my buddy, Mike V. That was a fun one. He was somebody I hadn't seen in several years. We sat down and recorded.

You had all these monsters.

It has been good. I can't wait because I have many more on deck. Thanks to everybody that was a guest in 2022. We are not doing the call because I felt like we left many people. I wanted to talk to everybody. I haven't had one person on that I don't want to talk to again. I was like, “Fuck it.” It feels like it is rushed. I was like, “From now on, we are doing the Christmas special like this, just me and my buddy Jay Myers. I was hoping to have Sarah here tonight. She, unfortunately, couldn't make it. Sarah helps me out with the show, and we got Gabby in here. It is Gabby's first year with us in 2022. We are doing this. No, I give gifts. You don't give gifts to me.

I did. This is fantastic.

This is for me? You didn't have to do that. You helped me out all year.

Open it.

I don't know how my wife possibly buys me anything. I'm the worst gift-giver in the world. I don't know how to shop for anybody. I know how to shop for myself.

I like to shop for people because, as a kid, I never had money, and Christmas wasn't a big deal.

That is stabbing me with it.

I enjoy picking out something that somebody will like.

You did a damn good job. I don't know how the hell to shop for people. What do you get for Bobby?

Should I open it now? Is it on butcher paper?

It is probably on butcher paper. That is a couple of gnarly ribeyes.

This might be the best gift I have ever received.

When I was on the Rona, I didn't know what it was. I had these wild cravings for sugar and carbs.

That is because it is trying to destroy you.

It is bloody. Those look so good. That is awesome.

That is you for the next couple of days.

No way. That is fucking rad. I will cook them before I leave.

You have to. I didn’t even think about that.

I will have it be my Christmas Eve lunch. What is this, some salt? It’s white truffle sea salt.

That was all Erin. I was like, “We are getting steaks.” She was like, “Do this.” Throw a little bit of that stuff on there as the jam.

I love truffles. I have been pounding Bito’s hot sauce, that Senior Lechuga’s.

I didn't try it yet.

He partnered with Rogan or some shit. I don't know what they did. He and Rogan have a signature hot sauce together. It got truffle. It is so good.

Anything truffle is magical. It is such a strange flavor.

I was like, “This is heavy.” That is a good three pounds of steak there.

They are not small. I wrapped that too. Look at one nice job I did.

You even folded the corners right and everything. I didn't go brown bag in 2022. At least I had some help with that.

You could even open that when you get home. I use this fucking thing all the time. They're just dirt cheap. I'm letting the world know. Go to Costco and buy these things.

Are they speakers?

It's a speaker work light with backup battery chargers. It is on a magnetic carabiner.

I check it out. Is it when you are working on the car or something?

No, but you throw that onto the e-track of the semi on the back. It lights everything up. It is like daylight in there. It is insane.

Can you yell at the stagehands and get the mic?

Play your own music. You don't have to listen to their stupid music. That is $15, Tupac. It is a jam.

I thought I was going to get nothing for Christmas. My kids always get me coal. They make me cookies that look like coal. “You are going to die, Fatman.” I got you guys some stuff too. Let me see here. I got to remember what is in what. These two are for Sarah who’s not here. A shout-out to Freaky’s. It is not what you think, great little smoke shop there. Shout-out to Lakeshore Dispensary. My boy Dupre and Jeremy hook me up over at Freaky’s there.

Where is that?

There is a bunch of them in Denver. The one that I went to is on 285 in Wads. It is a fucking awesome shop. They have novelty-type smoke stuff, glass, and all kinds of different stuff. I will leave these for Sarah to open up when she gets here. Gabby, I believe this is for you.

Thank you.

We haven't spent a whole lot of time together. I didn't know what to get you, but I knew what you did like.

I like anything.

This is for Erin to open up later.

Do we open it here?

You can open it if you want. I wasn't sure if you drink white wine.

Thank you so much.

Shout out to these guys for hooking it up. Juggernaut have started making Pinot Noir.

It is super good. This is a regular in our place.

I have seen this one before.

Where is that from? Is it Marlborough?

This is sauvignon blanc.

James, I got you and Ada something too to snack on there.

Look at this. It's like Christmas.

Jeremy, I got a couple for you here. It is not quite what I gave you last 2021, but this stuff is fucking cool. How is the blade doing?

Most of the time in a safe because I don't want to carry it around on shows. I'm afraid of some scumbag at the TSA rooting through my gear.

That is why I carry my Benchmade everywhere. I have a couple of Cardiac Spikes and a Columbo Spike that I will carry into the cities, but I know where they go. I lose Benchmade. That is a dope half-face blade hat there. This is another little something. This is from Latigo Customs. These are two of my favorite things that I own next to my half-face blade. I was like, “Jeremy got to have a set of this.”

I'm speaking straight to Andy. Thank you, Andy, for making hats for the bigheaded community. I feel like we are excluded, often from headwear companies. This is the perfect fitting hat.

Mountain Side Christmas: It’s hard to find a hat for the big-headed community. They feel like headwear companies often exclude them.

What is cool about that is wearing it at the range because it has no button on it. There is a little piece of Velcro up there as well. I don't know what you would stick on there.

It is probably some tactical shit. Thank you for being inclusive to the bigheaded community because it is hard to find a hat.

Locke, I appreciate you hooking us up with these before Christmas of 2022. Hit him up. That is a wallet. The coolest part about it is there is this little piece of elastic in it. You pull it. It is thin. You can stuff as many cards in there because it will expand. There is a tactical key chain holder there. It goes around your wrist, or you can clip it into a gun.

I dig that. I like this. I graduated Christmas of 2021. My wife bought me this.

It is a little switchblade.

This is more minimalist. For several years, I had a broccoli rubber band around credit cards and cash. That is all that I did. I was like, “Why would I carry a wallet? I have this free broccoli.”

The bad thing about these is you can easily misplace them.

I put this thing around me because it fell out of my pocket once because it is slick and smooth. I put a rubber band around it. It gets sticky in my pocket. It can't fall out. I'm so smart. Thank you. That is thoughtful.

Check out Latigo Customs. They are a fucking awesome company. They make bags and all kinds of stuff.

Where are they from?

I can't remember where they are based. Can you look that up, Gabby, real quick? Pull up Latigo Customs, and let's figure out where they are based at. They make all kinds of cool shit. The key chain is the way to go. If you are ever on the run and you need to use a firearm, that goes around your wrist, and you have your keys with you. Check out some of these bags. They will custom make them like colors and camo. He custom-made these for us. I wanted to see where they were from. I can't remember exactly what state. Maybe if you go to contact us, it will say. I think they are in Oklahoma or someplace. I can't remember.

I figured you always have the line on the stuff.

I don't know these guys. I hit them right before Christmas. I was like, “I want to get these as gifts.” Locke is his name. He was like, “We are fucking buried, but I will try.” He shipped them overnight. He was a super rad guy. It is a good small business. You are dealing with the owner and handmade shit. It is cool stuff, well thought out, and durable. I got another set from him, but I have had my set for a few years, and I lost without it. If I don't have it, I'm like, “Where is my shit?” Check out this next one I got for you.

What is this? I know what that is.

This is something you had mentioned you wanted last 2021.

What is it?

It is your toothpick.

How nasty is this thing? James, get over here. It is a toothpick but check this out.

That is from KBD. They make awesome little tactical stuff too.

What is this for?

This is nothing.

It would hurt if it landed in somebody's eye by accident.

When you need to get something out of your teeth, this is the jam right here.

Do you know what that seems like?

What is that?

That is something that TSA would give you crap.

They never stopped me for mine.

Is it all right?

Really?

Yeah.

This is so cool.

Don't hurt yourself with it. The last time you were bleeding.

I wasn't bleeding.

What a Christmas. I wasn't expecting anything from you guys. You guys give me stuff all year. I don't expect that next time. Thank you, everybody.

This is rad.

I brought my personality.

I don't expect anything. This is great. Merry Christmas, guys.

Merry Christmas. This is fantastic. My keys, this is going right on there. I don't know where they got to. What are you doing for New Year's?

I'm not sure.

Are you coming back into town?

We are flying back on New Year's Eve.

How cheap are the flights?

My mother-in-law bought them for us, which was super nice. She’s cool. She got us direct straight to Asheville. The only bummer is the only airline that flies direct from Asheville to Denver is Allegiant.

I have never flown Allegiant.

I have never flown them, either. I started looking at bags. If you wanted to get the premium boarding and a seat in a bag, it was $700. I was looking at it for the whole family. It will be cool. We are just going for a few days. It is direct. I hate having connections, especially with the family. They are not used to traveling as much as I do.

Connections are tough with young ones. If he doesn't bitch too much, 14 and 9 are smooth sailing. Travel is a piece of cake but we have some young kids.

Flights with connections are tough with young ones, especially during the holidays.

Ayanna is turning in five in 2023. She is not that young anymore.

Younger than five is a project. If you can get them to sleep, it is awesome. Once they get past five, and they can carry their own shit and everything, that is awesome. That should be a piece of cake. Direct flight is sweet. What the hell were we flying out of LAX?

It was Spirit. Do you know how we were talking about how Philly is such a bad airport? LAX is a whole different country.

I used to live there and fly there. It used to be great, but the traffic getting in and out of there is a fucking nightmare.

Our flight was delayed for five hours. That was several years ago. He was eleven, and my daughter was six. We were stuck for 5 or 6 hours sitting at LAX. I was like, “What the fuck?”

There are many people crammed into a tight area too. There is no place to spread out. There are not a lot of great restaurants or anything. There is that restaurant in the thing, but you got to go outside of security to get to it.

We were behind security. We were right next to our gate. It was this rock and roll themed restaurant. We were just sitting at this shitty restaurant. I don't even know how much we drank. We were like, “Five hours is going to be a long one, kids.” We were eating French fries and drinking wine. It was brutal.

All airports suck.

They are not great, but it is nice here. I'm fucking grateful.

You guys don't have to travel.

There is no travel. There is no nothing. We are hanging here. Summer is going to be here gigging a little bit, but this is fucking magical here.

It is a hard place to leave because it is nice. There is so much to do here too. You got the lake. It is nonstop. This place was built for Christmas. This should be Santa's vacation spot or something.

It should be. We are lucky. It is gross. I was driving down from my house and taking the kids to school. Every once in a while, I'm like, “Can you fucking believe this?” In the car, I’m dropping F-bombs. I’m like, “Look out the window. Do you have any idea when I was a kid what I looked at when I was driving to school? The mountains are purple. They wrote music about this shit, guys.”

I grew up here. I never appreciated it until I was gone. I'm wondering if my kids appreciate it.

That is what I'm worried about. I got to drop them into Bucks County, Pennsylvania, for a couple of years, so they appreciate strip malls.

Let them finish their junior and senior year of high school there.

Strip malls and track homes are as far as the eye can see, instead of like, “There is another bald eagle up on the tree.” I hope you appreciate it.

This is the perfect Christmas special. This is how I wanted to do it. The last couple was full-on big-ass production. It was crawling out of here.

You're lucky to be crawling. I should have slept here.

I wasn't going to drink tonight, but I'm going to have a whiskey. It is Christmas and the end of 2022. This is the last episode of 2022.

I was thinking about this earlier, and I'm like, “I'm always nervous when I come here and in you have on. I like, “Who am I?”

What do you mean? You help me fucking start this thing.

I had another name. We got to have a chat. I have watched people quit vices, turn their lives around, or do something radical. I can't imagine the commitment that it took. We are almost a year into this of you turning your diet around a year. We were a couple of months into it.

When we watch people quit vices and turn their lives around or do something radical, it’s hard to imagine the commitment it took.

It started on April 1st, 2022.

I was thinking about it when I was bullshitting around the house. I'm like, “I got to talk to Bobby.” It has been so long since he did this radical transformation, and it is mind-blowing to me. You have been able to stick to it.

It wasn't that big of a deal. I'm more excited about it that it worked, and I'm healthy. I have been beating this like a dead horse on the fucking show, but I don’t care. It is a life-changing fucking event for me. To lose close to 60 pounds is wild inside of a couple of months. I did that in 100 days. What I have been doing now is maintaining. I'm lifting a lot more and trying to put my muscle mass back on.

I have to force myself to eat large amounts to maintain that weight because I don't want to turn into a skinny little bitch. Nobody likes a 6’3”, 385-pound guy unless you are an ultra-marathon runner, savage good-looking guy like Jay, not that I'm into dudes or anything. That is not what I want to be. I want to look like big Mike Van Wyck.

I always appreciate it because I can't commit to shit. I'm all over the place. I'm tank-slapping through life. I can't imagine every day going, “This is what I'm consuming.” You are assaulted from every angle.

It makes life so much easier because you don't have to think about, “What am I going to eat? I wish I had this with that.”

That is what I wanted to hear. I'm thinking about buying three shirts, and that is it.

Is it like three different shirt sizes? That is why I wear all black clothes except for my Christmas sweater that I wore last year.

You can’t tell. It is what my brother does. It's hilarious. He has a black T-shirt.

I don't have to worry about what I'm going to wear.

He buys all this super high-end gear. He has three of them. It is going to last him until you can bury him in it. They don't wear out. It has three different colors. They are expensive, but it is not like you are buying designer stuff. It is utilitarian stuff. I'm like, “I don't know, maybe I need to do that with my life.” I purge my closet and get rid of everything along those lines, but even like a little bit higher than that.

I will tell you who has got badass shit. This is no plug. It is origin. It is 100% American-made. You want to talk about the quality of a car hard or better. They have kept that quality in that working-class deal. The design is much better, too. Their hoodies look sick.

Along the lines of doing some upending things, I was like, “ Maybe I should get rid of everything.” I got t-shirts since I was seventeen years old in my house.

Keep those. I got some of those too. Back when I first started touring, one of the first productions I worked on was Tony Hawk’s Boom Boom Huck Jam. The Metal Militia was coming in. They get hooked us up with a bunch of swag. I still have a hoodie from back then because they were sick. It wasn't something that you could go and buy. It was almost like a biker gang type little fucking click. The sleeves and elastic is so cool. I will still wear it around every once in a while.

It is all deteriorated shit.

That is all fucked. I look like a homeless guy.

There is no way I could fit into it. I was such a skinny little shit. I was probably his size. I have old Mighty Mighty Bosstones gear from when I was 14 or 15 years old that I still have jammed away. I walked past it. I'm like, “I love that.”

I have a couple of Pennywise shirts and some nostalgic-type stuff.

I think about purging. What I was getting is you did this radical transformation. You are bombarded from every direction of shit that they want you to consume, like restaurants and food stores. You are assaulted from every angle. To be able to sit there and go, “This is what I'm going to consume every day,” is mind-blowing.

It takes a lot of pre-planning. For me, it wasn't hard because I had fucking tried diets to the T like a ketogenic diet. I tried that but it didn't fucking work for me same. All that shit that they sell is keto-labeled. You start looking at it. It got a fucking ton of preservatives in it and all this extra bullshit. I was sticking to that. I changed it up to stick to something else, and it makes so much more sense. It is like common sense. You eat natural things, stuff that grows or walks and doesn't come in some packaging. Where did you get these steaks? They look good.

I got it at the Butcher on the other side of the Evergreen Market across from King Soopers. Do you know where the Bread Lounge is?

Yes. Is there a Butcher back there?

It is across from there.

I have no idea. I have to go back in there.

That banging Himalayan is the jam. I forgot that they put a Butcher shop there. I was driving around, and I was like, “Steaks.”

That's awesome. Thank you. It has been a crazy year. A lot has happened in 2022. I'm thankful. A lot of those connections came through the show. I’m being able to reach out to some of those doctors, dieticians, and nutritionists. If anybody is interested in that, I would be glad to set anybody on that path because it fucking worked for me.

It is radical. You said that you were maintaining. When I was gone a bunch, I came home, and I saw you. I go, “Jesus Christ.” Every couple of weeks, I see it, and I would be like, “What the fuck is going on? This is working effectively.”

I felt fucking great. What is crazy is up until I got Rona this last time, I never got sick or anything, not a cold, nothing. It is pretty wild.

I had to bring that up. Watching it the past, I'm proud, and you should be proud, also.

All my in-laws think I'm a fucking psychopath because they are very hospitable. They were like, “Is there anything that you want?” I was like, “Three pounds of steak a day.” They are like, “What? You can eat three?” I was like, “Yes, I will eat three pounds of meat in a day.”

Are you bringing your pet tiger with you?

Mike Tyson? It’s awesome. Merry Christmas, guys. Let's do cheers here. I'm going to fill up a whiskey glass, Jeremy.

You got to twist my arm.

On the rocks or no rocks?

Do I not look like a whiskey drinker?

I didn't say that.

She is a chick from Philly. She drinks whiskey.

Thank you, Jeremy.

I'm going on the rocks, and I'm going with that Conor McGregor.

I will take 1 rock or 2.

Do you want to pick a flavor? What are you drinking, Jeremy?

Buffalo Trace.

I’ll take that, too.

What the hell is the Philly special? It was a Yuengling.

My dad loves Yuengling, but I know what you are talking about.

A Yuengling and some whiskey.

It is some good whiskey.

It would be $5.

Do you know my dad still comes out here and goes, “Can I get a Yuengling?” I'm like, “We are in Colorado.” He was like, “Shit.”

There’s no Yuengling here.

I used to send cases of Yuengling to my buddy in Atlanta for Christmas. God knows I have drank a swimming pools worth of that stuff in my life. It is gross.

I was pumped. I need to check the facts on this, but my great-great-grandfather used to be an ink artist here in Denver. This was back in the 1800s. He got commissioned to draw for Coors when they first started the brewery. I'm sure that he drew Coors's original can. He drew the original waterfall. I was at BC Surf & Skate looking at some sunglass frames. One of the snowboard companies has his original drawing like a shirt. I need to go back down and buy it.

I know what you are talking about. Somebody bought the rights to it. Is it Brixton?

Yes, it is a Brixton.

They have all the rights to it.

If you go to the original, I think he drew the lion.

I don't know how they worked.

I could be wrong on this too. This could have been a drunk uncle telling me this as he was drinking Coors.

Run with this one.

I got to do some digging on that. Guys, come grab your whiskey. Let's do a toast real quick, and let's wrap this thing up here. One of the things that I'm going to do is go back. I have been recording some with my kids, which has been cool. Cheers, guys. Merry Christmas. Happy holidays. I appreciate all your help. I appreciate everybody reading. Cheers to everybody out there.

Thanks for all your support. Some of the most fun that I have had is recording with my kids and picking their brains. I'm going to try to record with them. One of my goals here is to record with them every month. It will be nothing that I ever published but to have that archived as them growing up. It made me think my grandparents are getting older now. I'm going to bring a recording studio to their place and pick their brains about all the family history. I was like, “I should start doing it with all these different family members, like uncles and keep it as a family’s secret archives thing, and I’d never publish it.

To have this space and your family, mostly local, is such a treasure. I would give anything to have my old man’s stories archived. This dude had stories and jokes for days. I know what is wrong with my brain, but I can't remember a fraction of him. This dude could rattle off a story, and that archive is lost.

Do you imagine how much has been lost in translation over the years or the shit that you don't know about?

That would be such a gift to your kids and further generations. My wife was talking about doing that with her grandmother and never pulled the trigger on it. It is one of her big regrets. She was a fascinating lady. It would be easy to sit there, drop a stupid iPhone there, and have a conversation with her. She just never did.

Anybody could do it. You never have to have a recording studio.

Imagine at this level. It is so much farther beyond, dropping a phone there and recording a conversation. That is all that anybody ever needs to do.

You can buy a recording system for a couple of $100. If anybody wants to do that, Zoom makes some fucking awesome. I don't know if they are related to the actual Zoom online platform, where you could record virtually, but they make actual Zoom recorders. It is a handheld thing. You can do it with batteries. There are mics you can set up. It is simple.

It is a good way to archive some history because I have some old knives. I have some old guns. It would be cool to know the history of those or if those have a story of them coming off the boats in New York. I have some native blood in me. Some of them were Cherokees, got run out, and married into White people. That is where I came from.

It is a good idea. Step on the gas on that too.

I need to do it. The time is ticking.

It was a couple of months ago that you were dragging me out here last Christmas of 2021.

That was an awesome night. It happens fast. What is wild is having my four-year-old sit in that seat over there and talk to me. She will fucking blow your mind.

She has a personality. Let me tell you.

She is built for entertainment.

I go home and talk about the story she tells me every week.

You spend a lot of time with her.

She was showing me the watch that you gave her. That was a ten-minute thing.

I got her and her brother Gizmos or something. It is a little Verizon watch. They can call up to whoever you deem. I gave it to her. She called me 35 times and made 85 phone calls in the first five hours.

Do you know what she said to me? She said, “It sucks that I only have mom’s, dad’s, brother’s, and sister's numbers.” I was like, “Who were you going to call?” She goes, “I don't know.” I thought about giving her my number for fun. Tom told me how many times she called you guys, and I was like, “No.”

She called me 35 times, and I answered every time.

You have to.

There is no ignoring it. We got her one, and James, you were good with yours. It was as if there were emergencies.

Did I crack?

You broke it. My daughter had one, and I would be out of town, I'm at work, I'm driving around, and Lyft or something. I'm busy, and my phone starts buzzing. She was like, “Hi, daddy.” I’m like, “Sweetie, what is going on?” She was like, “Nothing.” I'm like, “I will talk to you later. Daddy is busy.” She was like, “I will talk to you later.” Forty-five minutes later, she was like, “Hi, daddy.” She was blowing me up all the time. I answer every fucking time. They have a text feature on them too. I'm getting a carrot emoji.

All the kids like emojis.

My phone is blowing up. I'm like, “What the fuck is this?”

I hope you got the unlimited plan.

She was like, “It is a cactus. That is thank you.” I’m like, “Why did you send me a cactus?”

They send emojis. Ayanna showed me all the emojis. I was like, “What is your favorite emoji?” She was like, “I like this one.”

Going to high school up here, I played football. One of our football coaches had a son with down syndrome. His name was Josh. He was fucking an awesome kid. Unfortunately, he passes. Rest in peace, Josh. Cheer to that. I hope that coach doesn't mind me telling the story, but Josh was an amazing human. He played on the football team. A couple of the bands that I managed let him come up on stage. He would sing. He was into the ladies. At about several years ago, they moved him to a home with other downs people so he could get out of the house and get to know people in his community or get a girlfriend, whatever it was.

The first night that he was on this campus, he kept calling his dad, and his dad kept picking up the phone. His dad finally told him after calling the tenth time. He was like, “Josh, it is time for you to stop calling me. You got to be on your own now.” He was like, “It was one of the hardest things to tell him that.” Josh says, “Okay.” He hangs up the phone.

Not two minutes later, I heard the phone ring again. He said, “I had to get on him.” He was like, “Josh, you can't call here anymore and ask for me. You got to do this on your own.” Josh was like, “Okay, dad.” He hangs up the phone. Thirty seconds later, the phone rings. He was like, “Hello.” Josh was like, “Dad, can I talk to mom?” They are classic. Merry Christmas to you, guys. Let's wrap this up. Let's get you guys out here for the holiday. I appreciate you guys being here and helping me out. I'm looking forward to 2023 with everything we got going with the show.

Be captain local in 2023. It is going to be awesome.

Not as much travel for you anymore, big news.

I'm not going to docs what I'm doing.

It is all good. It is a top secret.

I'm looking forward to putting this fucking suitcase away for a while.

Congratulations on that. I will be happy to have you around here some more.

You seem to be around.

I'm setting myself up to be around more and trying to tackle some other things in life too.

As men at our age, that is a young man's game out there.

The entertainment industry is insane. The money's so damn good that it's hard to say no.

The money is so damn good. It is hard to say no. The entertainment industry is insane. If I can balance it and keep this thing going because this is what I enjoy doing, but unfortunately, it is not paying the bills. I got some hefty bills. I live a lavish lifestyle, driving my Toyota Tundra.

It is a supplement to go out for a little bit.

I have much freedom. I don't have people telling me what to do very often except for my wife. I love you, babe. Merry Christmas, everybody. Thanks to everybody that supported us throughout the year. Stay tuned for more guests coming and some awesome content. Thanks for reading this babble about shitty airports, structure fires, and Christmas stories. See you.